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May 06, 2008

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Rich

Note that X-Men Origins: Wolverine is due in May 2009. Not from Marvel studios, but it's still on the release schedule.

There's a 'Planet Hulk' animated release coming too, which could be really cool.

Mark Engblom

Ah...that's right, Wolverine for 2009! Thanks for the reminder, Rich!

Man, is Marvel eating Warner Bros./DC's lunch, or what?

Rich

Not much doubt about it. DC/WB really, really need to get on the ball. They've given us a great Batman series, a so-so Superman, and not much else lately. I guess 'Watchmen' and 'V for Vendetta' might count.

I don't mind that "The First Avenger" bit if the goal is to build brand recognition. The Avengers aren't as well known among civilians as the Justice League/Superfriends, after all.

I'll note that whoever is cast as Cap will be filming as that character for a long time to do two movies, so I hope they like carrying around a shield. Also... with the star power in Avengers (Downey, Jr., Norton, Jackson, and the remaining cast), let alone the effects and such, that flick is going to be *very* expensive.

MMFK

WWII Cap (maybe tied with Captain Mahr Vehl) is the best design to come out of the Ultimate books. It's the perfect blending of 'super' and 'soldier,' and it'd be great for a Cap movie set in WWII. That being said, in an Avengers movie, I'd like to see him make to switch to the classic Captain America costume, complete with head wings.

I love Thor, but I'm going to try not to get my hopes up about the movie at least until I see a trailer or something. Considering the popularity of all the fantasy movies coming out lately, I could see why they'd want to go in that direction, but the visuals in Marvel's Thor wasn't really all that tied to the original mythological source material when he was introduced. Maybe the "Mardi Gras" headgear is too much to ask for, but I wouldn't want to see the Asgardians wearing more authentic-looking viking garb either.

Who am I kidding...I'm gonna see 'em all anyway. Can't wait!

Mark Engblom

"That being said, in an Avengers movie, I'd like to see him make to switch to the classic Captain America costume, complete with head wings."

Maybe the helmet look reminds me too much of the 1970's TV movie, which featured cap wearing a blue, wing-painted motorcycle helmet instead of a mask. Sure, going into battle with an unprotected head wouldn't happen...but so what. Yeah, throw a utility belt on him or other bits of standard-issue stuff...but keep the head free of a helmet.

Brian

Wait, did I hear that Adam Sandler had been cast as Captain America, and that they were definitely going with Dakota Fanning as the Wasp in the Avengers film? Also can't wait to see Ashton Kutcher's brilliant performance as Thor...

Sorry Mark, couldn't resist a bit of nightmarish humor. (: I think these movies all sound great, but I'm wary of getting my hopes up until shooting on them actually begins. Still, I like all your ideas, and think they should hire you as a Creative Consultant.

Texcap

I've been waiting for a Captain America movie worthy of the name for what seems like a lifetime, and the news that it's finally happening fills me with that same kid-like excitement I had for movies like Star Wars, Superman, Indiana Jones and the like. At least, so long as Marvel takes it seriously.

Like most of you, I'd love to see the WWII setting with fantastic battle scenes in which Captain America is allowed to decimate Nazi's as America's first and only "Super-Soldier," building of course to a climax in which he faces off against some Red Skull-inspired plot. What American audience wouldn't love seeing Cap on the WWII battlefield given how well those resonate with everyone?

And as for the uniform, the classic suit is the only way to go, in my eyes. Now, I wouldn't mind if they made the blues or the reds darker for the film, etc. but the "head wings" and the "A" are a must in my eyes and I just wouldn't get why they'd mess with a classic given what studios are now capable of visually (e.g. Spider-Man, Iron Man, etc). I'm definitely with Alex Ross on this one:

"For me, the biggest one of them is the wings on the sides of the head. I don’t want to see them go. I had designs utilizing the wings involved in the headpiece in slightly different ways, but basically, that was the one thing I felt had to stay. I did not want to provide a single drawing or sign off on my participation on it, without those wings.

It’s just that, to me, that’s the iconic graphic image: the “A” and the wings on the sides of the head – and I believe you can make them look good – they don’t have to look ridiculous."

Anyhow, can't wait for more info!

Mark Engblom

"Wait, did I hear that Adam Sandler had been cast as Captain America, and that they were definitely going with Dakota Fanning as the Wasp in the Avengers film? Also can't wait to see Ashton Kutcher's brilliant performance as Thor..."

LOL! You know, you almost had me going back to the original article to see if the Sandler bit was in there somewhere. WHEW!...although, I've lived through plenty of nightmare casting calls (Nic Cage as Superman anyone?) to know that the Hollywood crowd is capable of just about anything. Happily, the fact that Marvel Studios will be doing the films gives me a little more reassurance that horribly miscast characters won't be the norm. True, Downey as Iron Man was a bit of a "huh?" moment at first, but proved to be a brilliant choice.

Pj Perez

Look at Alex Ross' renderings of Cap and his costume ... maintained like that, with a touch of Ultimates flavor (it would make sense Cap would have a "utility" type belt, soldier without weapons and all). Actually, the only realistic way I can see all of this getting pulled into a film is to do it "Ultimates" style, with Fury assembling the team to combat the alien threat. Would be good to have the Cap film lead into that, establish the Nazi/Alien thing...

Mark Engblom

"At least, so long as Marvel takes it seriously."

Well, if any studio will, it'll be Marvel. Of course they'll take certain liberties with the material, but they'll also be trying to portray their property in the best possible light...and not as camp or some ironic political harangue.

"Like most of you, I'd love to see the WWII setting with fantastic battle scenes in which Captain America is allowed to decimate Nazi's as America's first and only "Super-Soldier,"

Absolutely....and black and white Newsreel footage of Cap in action wouldn't hurt, either!

"What American audience wouldn't love seeing Cap on the WWII battlefield given how well those resonate with everyone?"

I continue to believe that many non-American audiences will enjoy the Cap movie as well. World War II still looms large over the generations that followed (to varying degrees), yet in many ways it's beginning to move into a sort of "mythic" realm that may be kinder to a costumed guy running around in the middle of it...something that may not have been as accepted twenty or even ten years ago.

"And as for the uniform, the classic suit is the only way to go, in my eyes. Now, I wouldn't mind if they made the blues or the reds darker for the film, etc. but the "head wings" and the "A" are a must in my eyes..."

That's the way I'm leaning, as well. After all, Cap was meant to be the total "propaganda package", and not just a fighting machine. The flag motif was meant to be seen by our enemies, not obscured with a helmet and layers of gear. Like Old Glory itself, let Cap proudly display those colors as he leads the troops and gashes Nazi skulls.

"I'm definitely with Alex Ross on this one"

Me too. In fact, I just read that various Marvel writers revealed a "secret" that they had been brought in as consultants on the Iron-Man script early in the game (Mark Millar urged them to drop the Mandarin from the first movie...and they did!)...so, similarly, I would hope they could bring in a few of the premiere artists/costume designers to provide input on costuming. Ross is one of the very best since he has such a great eye for translating costumes into functional "real world" versions.

"It’s just that, to me, that’s the iconic graphic image: the “A” and the wings on the sides of the head – and I believe you can make them look good – they don’t have to look ridiculous."

I completely agree! It can be done...and I hope Marvel will do their best to stick to the "real" Cap costume, and don't give in to the geared-up "Soldier Cap".

Guido

If they manage to make the Avengers movie with the original actors from their respective movies, that film will be a real breakthrough in comic book films! Really, what excites me the most about all these films is the notion that they will all take part in a shared universe! Isn't it weird that we are just starting to see this happen with Marvel films, when it should have been much more obvious and feasible for DC, which has all of its characters under the Warner umbrella?

By the way Mark, cool as it sounds, a Spidey or Wolverine cameo in the Avengers film would be highly unlikely, given that the film rights for those characters are at Sony and Fox respectively.

Mark Engblom

"By the way Mark, cool as it sounds, a Spidey or Wolverine cameo in the Avengers film would be highly unlikely, given that the film rights for those characters are at Sony and Fox respectively."

Good point, Guido. I guess in my enthusiasm I got a little carried away.

The biggest road block for an Avengers film, outside of the gigantic effects budget, would be the salaries (and the inevitable brinkmanship) of the primary actors who would have remarkable leverage on the process (unless the Avengers movie is worked into their original contract language).

Pat Curley

Having lived through the horrific adaptations of the 1970s and early 1980s (with a few exceptions), I have to admit that I'm always skeptical when it comes to superhero movies. Even since then it's been hit and miss--Daredevil or Batman and Robin, anybody?

As far as Cap goes if they can do an Indiana Jones-type thriller I'd be very happy with the WWII setting. Otherwise my vote is for an adaptation of the Sleeper Series; gives us both yesterday and today.

John Nowak

I liked the "Iron Man" film quite a bit, and I really hope that Marvel can keep up the quality. Of course, if you hit it out of the park the first time at bat, it's going to be hard to top it... still, it seems that Marvel, unlike DC, seems to understand that a superhero film works best if it plays it straight.

It's very ambitious, and good luck to them.

Luke

Captain America-Jensen Ackles for Captain America. Why? Well he's tough from being on Supernatural, he has humor, he has the American acsent, he's about the right age of Steve Rogers, and he has the face of a hero. He would make a great Cap't. Viggo Mortenson for Red Skull. Why? He's a great actor, he's tough from his past roles, and he would make a great villain and a great Red Skull.

Thor-I don't know who should play Thor, but Loki should be played by Mathew Marsden. Why? He as that personality and would make a great villain.

Iron Man 2-Get all the main actors and actresses from the last film that didn't die to return. Villain should be Mandarin, or at least Mandarin should be mentioned. Chow Yun Fat should play the Mandarin. Why? He's a good actor, he is tough, and who be a great villain. Since Chow Yun was in the last Pirates movie I always thought he could be a good villain for a major comic book movie.

Avengers-Well like I said Jensen Ackles for Captain America, Robert Downey Jr. for Iron Man, Ed Norton for Hulk, Sam Jackson for Nick Fury, and Terrence Howard for Jim Rhodes; who maybe should become War Machine.
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So my cast for all the movies:

Steve Rogers/Captain America- Jensen Ackles
Red Skull- Viggo Mortenson

Loki- Mathew Marsden

Tony Stark/Iron Man- Robert Downey Jr.
Jim Rhodes/War Machine- Terence Howard
Pepper Potts-Gwenith Paltrow
Mandarin- Chow Yun Fat

Bruce Banner/Incredible Hulk- Ed Norton
Nick Fury- Sameul L. Jackson

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