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August 04, 2009

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David Morefield

I'm sure you'll get to it if you haven't already, but my favorite blooper came when Doc Ock called Spidey, "Super-Man"! And I know I remember at least one occasion when Betty Brant is identified as Betty Ross.

Just last week I was reading the early "Avengers" issue (#2 or 3) where Rick Jones says it's time for The Hulk to turn back into Dr Don Blake. Come again?

In fairness to Stan, it can't have been easy cranking out all those books at once. I'm sure I'd have mixed up the names myself.

Mark Engblom

LOL! I'd heard of the Doc Ock Superman quip, but I've never heard of the Rick Jones/Don Blake line. I'll definitely have to track that one down...or you could shoot me a scan, David!

Hube

Hmm... I just scanned through my Marvel Masterworks Avengers edition and could not find the Rick Jones blunder. Perhaps they corrected it in the reprint?

Mark Engblom

Yeah, all of my Masterworks are corrected...although you'd think they'd also remove politically incorrect stuff like Smokin' Tony Stark while they were at it.

Hube

LOL -- I've often wondered the same thing myself, Mark!

Hube

I presume the ESSENTIAL is corrected as well?

Guido

I wouldn't be surprised if it was corrected. I have an old copy of Marvel Masterworks Spidey, and when I finally got the ASM Omnibus, I noticed that a lot of the coloring was "corrected" in the Masterworks edition. They even had alterations like whiting out peter's eyes from his mask in the panel where he discovers the identity of Uncle Ben's murderer.

zubzwank

Way back when, I think Stan, on a letters page, addressed the Peter Palmer thing the same way he did the Bob Banner thing--lousy memory!. He didn't change Peter's name to accommodate it though, like he did Bob's...er, Bruce's.

Stan sounds like a poster child for early Alzheimer's, but that same guy, in his late 80's(!) is still writing, making appearances, giving interviews, cameo-ing in movies, etc.

Go Stan! You are as much a super-hero as any you (co)created!

Mark Engblom

"Go Stan! You are as much a super-hero as any you (co)created!"

I heartily second that sentiment! We tend to forget the insane number of hats Stan and his upstart Bullpen were wearing in those early days of Marvel Comics...so his "lousy memory" was probably just the normal human brain's capacity to recall information under extraordinarily demanding deadlines and activity levels. It's amazing he could remember as much as he did! Still, it doesn't make his occasional gaffes any less entertaining (in an endearing, entirely forgiven way).

Pat Curley

It does reveal the downside of a writer editing his own work. When I worked as a free-lance writer, I typically would set aside something I had written for a week or two, then read it; caught a lot more mistakes that way than by editing on the fly.

Some good ones:

In Fantastic Four #36, Sue and Reed are having an engagement party, and Ben asks Alicia (referring to Professor Xavier) "Who's that billiard-ball head over there, baby?" Of course, Alicia is blind, and unlikely to recognize someone by a description.

In Daredevil #2, the FF hires Matt Murdock to "Go to our headquarters and examine the place to make sure that it's everything the lease says it is." Again, how's a blind person going to do that?

In Amazing Spiderman #6, Spidey uses a potion to turn the Lizard back into Dr Connors. Near the end of the story he hugs his wife and says "If not for Spider-Man, I might never have held you in my arms again!" Of course, he's only got one arm, as is shown in the panel.

In Superman #169, Weisinger created the "Great DC Contest", where readers were supposed to locate the letters C and D in the text of a Superman story (they were supposed to appear in only one place in the story, one of those "Continued on Next Page Following) notes at the bottom of a page. But in a goof, one panel had the words "and" and "goodbye" both of which had D's in them. When the story was reprinted in Superman #202, those errors were fixed, but the editor for the Giants back then, Nelson Bridwell, changed on panel which had originally said, "Later, in the parking lot" to read, "Later, in the Daily Planet parking lot," thus inserting another "D" into the story. But even this didn't end the problems; when DC reprinted the story in the "Superman in the 1960s" book, they deleted the "Continued on Next Page Following" mention, so that there was no "C" in the story at all (they mistakenly left the "Daily Planet parking lot panel in there, so there was a "D".

In ASM #17, Flash Thompson refers to Liz Allen's dad as "Mr Brant".

Mark Engblom

Some great ones, Pat! Don't be surprised if you see some of them in upcoming Super-Bloopers (properly accredited, of course). That "Great DC Contest" debacle is a howler!

buttler

Stan's "Bob Banner" blooper is a personal favorite just because it had the lasting effect of changing the Hulk's name to Robert Bruce Banner. I always wondered if Marvel would manage to find a way to squeeze the TV show's "David Banner" into his name somewhere too, but if they ever did I never heard about it.

Of course, Marvel readily poked fun at itself for things like this, with the "No-Prize" awards for creative reader explanations of continuity errors in the letters pages, and even publishing The Official Marvel No-Prize Book in 1982, chock full of on-panel bloopers like Marvel Girl floating a screwdriver over to Beast while saying "Here are your pliers, Hank." (Worse yet, he replies, "You're a credit to your gender"!)

Dave Allen

I love this, and I love your site. Just FYI, in the early 80's Marvel put out a one-off comic called the "Marvel No-Prize Book", with Stan Lee as an unmasked Dr. Doom on the cover. Its actually one of my all-time favorite comics. It not only had the ones above (Peter Palmer, the Hulk as Don Blake, and Doc Ock calling Spidey Superman), but quite a few of their more egregious blunders. Leave it to a company like Marvel to not only call notice to their mistakes but to profit from them!!

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